LSpeaker 1 (00:03) Okay, I'm starting this audio. Speaker 2 (00:07) Cool infinity. Speaker 1 (00:09) Infinity, we roll in 8 I don't know what that means. But we'll watch for that, it's 5 o'clock. Somewhere on the stove 501 in the microwave. Speaker 1 (00:22) What's this phone say it says 457 good trick on yourself there. You get a few minutes out of the day. Speaker 2 (00:29) I like that. I like one clock, so I had to look Speaker 1 (00:34) Times a weird thing for me, you know that Speaker 2 (00:37) How have your waking app and going to sleep? Patterns been lately. Speaker 1 (00:41) Great question. Well, this past week I was up riding bikes until 3 AM on Friday up till 1 o'clock putting shelves together last night, so I consistently am Speaker 2 (00:57) What's up? Consistency is key. Speaker 1 (00:59) That was key. Something I used to say all the time when I was lifting. Heavy objects I was always told if you don't use it. Speaker 1 (01:06) You lose it so lift with your back, not with your knees. It was an interesting joke, but my back has been really good. A lot of people, my age are younger who have back problems. Speaker 1 (01:18) If you just sit around and don't use your back, you probably won't have a muscle there. Speaker 2 (01:22) Blasphemy, that just happens when you get old Joe. Speaker 1 (01:27) Well then don't get old Right, bones. Speaker 2 (01:33) That's been a pet peeve of mine for years when people blame their ailments and their pains and their decay on their age. Speaker 1 (01:44) I'm getting old. I say it jokingly now. Cuz, I'd like to pretend like I'm getting old. Speaker 1 (01:49) Sometimes, you know I'm getting old like, how old are you? I'm like, I love that question. I really love it. Speaker 2 (01:56) Right? I always want people to guess. I always want them to guess before I check. Speaker 1 (02:00) How old they guess Speaker 2 (02:04) There is a spectrum it can be all over the Speaker 1 (02:07) The play 23 is where you're at right now. Speaker 2 (02:09) Well, thank you. Speaker 1 (02:10) I'm pretty good with age. I can tell other people's ages Speaker 2 (02:13) I do feel like you. Speaker 1 (02:14) 2300 years old. Speaker 2 (02:15) An extra young light Speaker 1 (02:19) Maybe cuz, I'm an extra old light. Speaker 2 (02:24) You think so. Speaker 1 (02:26) I mean, you're not you, don't You don't act 23, you look 23. So it's that thing of like you. If that's the perfect combination somebody who's young before 25, who knows what they're doing very rare, and that's what you bring to the world in my opinion, men see you and like, hold on, what does this kid know I want to know what she knows. Speaker 1 (02:48) And Your actual age doesn't matter, but you are presenting. As a witch, I would say to the world somebody, they need to see. Smart young people. Speaker 1 (03:01) I want to see that. Please show me the smart young people. I want to put attention on them, but they're bare. Speaker 2 (03:07) I That's nice that I'm, I'm actually old enough to have had. And this probably does rely on age to some degree. I also really enjoy seeing driven driven even more than intelligent. Speaker 2 (03:20) But driven intelligent young people It's attractive. It's very Inspiring it, it inspires a lot of Pope. Speaker 1 (03:34) That makes me think of my daughter shut their welding. She's like, I'm gonna go make some money. I'm gonna do I believe in myself. Speaker 1 (03:40) I said, whoa, I'm gonna believe in you too cuz, that's amazing, and I want that for all my kids. I want it for all the young people. But you're out there, inspiring men like myself, we've had a journey together. Speaker 1 (03:51) Inspiring me to stay young. Right? The call to action is keep working. Speaker 1 (03:57) Keep growing, keep pushing into the places you're afraid of. Because if you don't you get old, you stop moving, you stop going to those spaces and your world get small and you die. But you've taught me how to live for infinity yay. Speaker 1 (04:14) It's pretty amazing, but you have to have the desire to stay young until people get hurt and go through painful things and close off. You and I haven't I almost did. I did in some areas in my life, but I don't want to share about that. Speaker 1 (04:28) You went through some really intense things. Not for a show here, but like you've told me some parts of your life that I know you've been through. Hell and you came out the other side like, okay, then nothing's gonna stop me, I'm young forever now. Speaker 1 (04:43) When I was dying, I gone through a major trauma in my life, and if you hadn't come into my life. And I wasn't looking, I would have missed that lesson I would have died. That's where I was going. Speaker 1 (04:56) So if you want to share anything about our story together? I would like to tell the world Speaker 2 (05:04) It's a powerful moment when you really reckon with the choice to live. Speaker 1 (05:18) The choice to live Speaker 2 (05:19) I don't know. I don't know exactly at what point that landed for me. But somewhere amongst the 4 suicide attempts it, I guess that seed was planted that like, Hey me being alive is a choice that I'm that I'm making right like it is it is actually a choice that I have to to kill myself, right? Speaker 2 (05:44) Like that's that that is, I mean, and it is a lot harder than people give it credit for I will say that particularly, I mean, it takes some f****** cuts to kill yourself like cuz you have to really, it is difficult like we have resilient. F****** bodies wildly wildly so-and-so recognizing that Like there is actually Even though it's Even though there can be challenges in that direction that is that is an option that any of us have. And it's becoming a shockingly realistic option for So many, it's becoming a realistic option for a shocking number of humans and In the sense, well and and actually to connect that to the other point I'm making, maybe that's just part of us realizing that it's a choice that we have to be alive, right? Speaker 2 (06:54) And the more we realize that it is a choice, the more people are going to exercise their free will in that area. You can't exercise free will if you're not operating from a place of having a choice. Most people are stuck in doing the same thing over and over and over, and they think they're making a choice. Speaker 2 (07:12) But it's really just the thing that They they add. At a very deep level for and for so much of their psyche, they don't really believe they have a choice. So they keep doing the thing because it's what they feel Is there a slave to it right? Speaker 2 (07:34) It's a very different thing to recognize the full spectrum of what you could do. And both the potential pitfalls, but also the potential successes of what A whole spectrum of possibilities can bring into your life, and then to f****** reckon with. Okay, so, if I don't do these things that I recognize I could do and I recognize would offer me massive payoffs, right like Actually reckoning with I hate my job. Speaker 2 (08:11) I go to the same 9 to 5 every Monday through Friday Monday through Saturday and II hate it. It's it's not what I wanna be doing with my time. I'd rather be lazy about at home, which, by the way, you only think you want to be doing that, because you don't know what is actually pleasurable to you and exciting and stimulating, like if you actually knew those things you wouldn't want to be lazy about, you know, at least not. Speaker 2 (08:41) Most of the time, because the newsplash, it's actually exciting to feel alive. It's exciting to feel turned on by life. It's exciting to feel stimulated and stimulating news flash. Speaker 2 (08:54) And most of us are so f****** foreign to that feeling that we prevent ourselves from feeling anything at all because it feels shocking and uncomfortable and depending on how you you interpret it, painful sometimes. So much so that you are unable to feel it and so it feels numb. So recognizing that, oh well, that's kind of a s*** situation. Speaker 2 (09:25) Maybe I'll just bow out. Like I, that sounds hard as f*** to do, to actually do the things that I know I could do. And that I need to do, if I want to have a life that I actually enjoy living. Speaker 2 (09:44) That's a rough game. Especially the deeper you are into that feeling of numbness and being disconnected from your emotions, changing that will feel increasingly harder. But at some point you get to the point where it's just a choice. Speaker 2 (10:04) I can either die or I can stay alive. I can live. I can die or I can live. Speaker 2 (10:10) And at the point that you've actually made that choice, you've basically eroded the option psychologically, not in a negative way, but in a through transmutation, if you've really made that choice to be alive, then there is no dying in it. There is no you may. You may have work to do in order to be able to tolerate higher levels of stimulation. Speaker 2 (10:35) And heal the parts of yourself that have died or fallen into the shadow, but at the end of the day, there's no, there's no real other option. Anymore anymore other than to do that, because you realize what the pale and do you realize that to not do that is actually still choosing to die? And so at the point that you've made that choice you're, you're recommitting right? Speaker 2 (10:58) Like it's, there's always this recommitment, this realizing, oh, f*** I'm, I'm letting myself get comfortable again, right? I was comfortable in the numbness. I was comfortable in the disconnection. Speaker 2 (11:11) Life may have been miserable, but it was sure of a hell. A lot more comfortable than doing the hard s*** that I need to do. In order to change for the better Speaker 1 (11:22) And let's say you are running from your problems right in a way. It's like you run and run from these scary things you don't want to face until there's no room left. And you have to die, you hit the rock bottom? Speaker 1 (11:32) And you turn around and you're like, well, I guess you go this way now. It's a weird thing to come to the end of yourself. And it's a new beginning where now you have the way to eternal life. Speaker 1 (11:42) Things that we all worship in religions, there's eternal life here. Now, but it's only here now. Hey man. Speaker 1 (11:55) Where's the Sting? We thought there was a Sting at the bottom, but it's just numbness, and we're already there. So it's not something sharp, it's just a realization. Speaker 1 (12:06) I am actually free anywhere. I go My demons are with me to remind me if you're OMV. I see them in every one that I come across. Speaker 1 (12:15) They always have my demonstra. And they're beautiful, ohh, my God. When you start to look at them, some of our friends that we met, they're so dark. Speaker 1 (12:26) So scary to my old self, I would have been like, hell no run away. I'm standing with you right now. We're doing this, and I know the depth of human that I've seen in you the scariness of the abyss. Speaker 1 (12:40) You're endless, you'll just take over everything like a virus, but with beauty. Like, please come here. Take me over, that's you're captivating. Speaker 1 (12:50) Like this people hear it, they're going I know that's something you want. You want to be seen I'm so blessed to be here with you and see you. I've had a show the past couple years. Speaker 2 (13:05) Do you want to be seen But more than that. I want to. I want to be present. Speaker 1 (13:30) Last night. It's beautiful. What a great piece I'm glad I know you. Speaker 1 (13:44) You're so inspiring. It was so hard to watch you change your life again. I got comfortable. Speaker 1 (13:51) Just what you're saying here it's so easy to get comfortable and run from the thought of being free and doing what you want. It's scary to let go of what you love to stay young. I see you, you're a medicine woman. Speaker 1 (14:09) You always have been You just haven't always worked with what everyone else works with But you speak many languages. Speaker 1 (14:34) Thank you so much for telling me your story. I'm glad to have you. Is one of the first people? Speaker 1 (14:39) I record audio up but I want to do that with all of my friends, all the demons I met along the way. I want to have the interviews the love like. Yeah, I mean, you taught me a lesson. Speaker 1 (14:51) Salute, everybody. Life is a stage you think Speaker 2 (15:02) The other day, Katie and I deduced that my The style of dancing that I am most proficient in is this. It's Maybe not even technically dancing. But II moved the best cuz. Speaker 2 (15:23) We were both noticing how awkward I can look when I'm dancing and I'm I've definitely like eased into I am way more comfortable dancing now than I used to be. But there's still a significant discomfort there, like it's something I have to work at. And so we were just I oh, well, we were talking about that. Speaker 2 (15:48) And then I identified that my The kind of movement that feels organic to me like at that speed. I'm, I'm Moving Out of f****** whale speed, Joe, I'm moving at a whale speed. Okay, deep and slow and rhythmic. Speaker 2 (16:07) And sometimes weird noises are involved I am the whale. That's why I was afraid of them for so long as cuz. I am the m************ whale. Speaker 2 (16:19) And so my Best kind of dancing is this full body gesturing when I'm telling a story when I'm speaking I grew up on musical theater, so it's really not that surprising, right? Like other people grew up being exposed to other kinds of dancing. I was exposed to musical theater right? Speaker 2 (16:47) Like there's so Speaker 1 (16:48) You speak with your body. Speaker 2 (16:50) I speak with my body. Yes, I speak with my body. I tell you I'm good with my words. Speaker 2 (16:55) Yeah, well, I'm not. And I was not, there's not a lot of business Perse. My immediate family. Speaker 2 (17:08) Though I love them very much. Other people have I've learned how to move from other people. You Or a good medicine. Speaker 2 (17:26) Hello. I well. I'm going to press in on that II want you to hear that from me. Speaker 1 (17:43) Thank you. I'll let that in. Thank you for making me do that. Speaker 1 (17:48) It's hard to take compliments. Speaker 2 (17:53) This is what I do for one of my jobs. Ladies and gentlemen, is I just help men get in touch with their feelings more by having conversations like this? And doing little things like that, at exactly the right moment, actually, Joe, I just gave you a compliment, and then you complimented me immediately in return, which is a nice thing. Speaker 2 (18:15) Don't get me wrong, but that's not why I was telling you that thank you. I'm giving the audience well. Speaker 1 (18:23) That was beautiful like, oh man. I didn't even realize I did that like. I always want to return kindness and kindness. Speaker 2 (18:30) Lots of people do it 5, I've noticed that men seem particularly oblivious to their doing it. Speaker 1 (18:41) I've never thought about that. Speaker 2 (18:43) Because y'all are so well-trained to be the givers. We all all are chronic problem women. You know, I can just hear the cries of the women saying, we were trained to be givers too, and I'm like, yeah, but you know that okay, and here's the f****** difference. Speaker 2 (19:05) And I just wish the women sorry. I have the whole f****** soapbox about this. But I just wish wish wish wish wish wish wish that women would extend some of that, you know, compassion that they're just bending over from their men. Speaker 2 (19:19) I wish they would actually extend that to their men. Okay, and that's not supposing any particular outcome on the other side of that, it's just like instead of like being hateful and resentful towards, you know, the man that you are, you know, doing your best presumably to love, you know, maybe you could work with that and recognize, like, Hey? What can you do about your feelings, cuz, they're your feelings. Speaker 2 (19:50) And and I, and this is such a key difference on so many different topics is women again. Yes, women. You were also trained to overgive and not have good boundaries. Speaker 2 (19:59) But, you know that you have almost certainly heard about that thought about that. Considered that before this moment, Joe, who is a 43. Your old man never thought about it. Speaker 2 (20:13) Not in that not in detail enough to be aware of that language pattern. Okay? And Lots of places we could go with this, but Women are exposed to an implicit level of emotional intelligence skills. Speaker 2 (20:32) That men just don't get and more specifically, girls are exposed to almost always a significant fundamental Set of emotional intelligence skills that boys are most often not allowed to have access to And some of that's changing. We're, we're trading in some ways, you know, changing over time, but, you know, looking at most of the men alive in, let's just say the United States today. Still like that, that applies that statement applies, and Unfortunately, because it was implicitly taught a lot of women don't realize like, oh, even though you know Even though I'm in therapy and I'm, I am still learning all of these emotional intelligence skills and putting them into practice as an adult. Speaker 2 (21:32) I did have some fundamental things. In my childhood that were allowed and likely encouraged. Because I was a girl, for example, that it was okay to comfort the comfort people around you and to receive comfort that it, that it's okay to be vulnerable about about needing help. Speaker 2 (21:54) Okay. Men boys are or are instead tend to be taught you. You should figure it out, like you can figure it out. Speaker 2 (22:04) This taught taught in independence. And that and Implied, that there's something wrong. If they're needing help, particularly past a certain point. Speaker 2 (22:23) The there are classic limitations on what emotions boys can feel, particularly without getting some kind of negative response, or a response that's questioning their masculinity. And now we have, I mean, we just pervasive across our culture. We have this idea that masculinity and femininity are somehow like at odds with each other in a person. Speaker 2 (22:46) And that is the reality that most people have created for themselves. Okay, but that is not that is not a necessary reality. Like, what could be instead? Speaker 2 (22:56) I would say, and I'm going to suggest that this is much closer to the truth is that all of us. Humans have a have have masculine essence and feminine essence inside of us. And how we relate to each of each of those and how we facilitate their relationship with each other, is what determine determines harmony or disharmony in our experience. Speaker 2 (23:23) Okay, however you want to think about this. You can think about it like I have my mom and my dad inside of me. You can think about it like I have an inner child that needs reparenting. Speaker 2 (23:37) But that ability to generate Harmony and congruence alignment integrity inside ourselves is what is going to determine The fluidity, the efficiency of our experience Speaker 1 (24:01) So the question I have is that why I feel like I have a limited capacity. In life there's certain levels that I don't want to go to because it means I have to be vulnerable. I have to be open to the feelings. Speaker 1 (24:11) I'm going to have not knowing the way. So I'm naturally opposed to growth because it means new scared situations I have no tools to deal with. I don't know if I'm answering that question there. Speaker 1 (24:23) But I feel that way I'm like, okay, that seems like what most of the guys around me are having to overcome is what is a feeling? What is it? What do I do with it? Speaker 1 (24:30) Versus get hard push away through Speaker 2 (24:34) It's not, it's not that men have a limited emotional capacity. It was like y'all were literally caught. Great things also great things like there. Speaker 2 (24:41) There is nothing wrong with being able to put on a suit of armor and and you know, like you saw the thing. You know, the biggest alarm in my head, looking around at this like war on toxic positivity, is that or sorry, toxic masculinity, we could talk about Speaker 1 (25:03) It's amazing. Speaker 2 (25:05) This is more on toxic masculinity and honestly. Huge parallels between those movements is There is an extremity of masculinity that is that like we want that But we want it channeled, and you know You know, there's more or less harmonious channeling, right? But pretending like there's something wrong with that is Creating more discord, creating more descendants. Speaker 2 (25:35) We everyone we want the men. And whoever else wants to like in a way that's actually, you know, again in harmony. We want suits of armor to be put on to be. Speaker 2 (25:47) We want to be able to put on suits of armor we also Want To be able to take them off. And boys are rarely taught that men are rarely taught how to take the suit of armor off. Like in a way that is actually effective. Speaker 2 (26:01) In a way that is actually like helping them get into their bodies. And here's the key for that is being able to translate the feminine language into language that men are more apt to understand which is linear. And logical and data-driven, that's why I can do what I do so well is because I'm good at at helping a man. Speaker 2 (26:21) Take something that often sounds fluffy and Woo woo and doesn't mean s*** And what are you talking about? Drop into my body. What does that f****** mean right? Speaker 2 (26:30) I can communicate In a way that connects with his mind, here's the thing, easy or shortcut down the road of self. Awareness, stop fighting your f****** mind. Your mind is not the enemy. Speaker 2 (26:45) It's goes right in line with this idea of talks about the mind is not an enemy to too quiet or or the problem. Or your like your ego, like those are not interchangeable words. Okay, you consciousness, soul that that Primordial essence that is view. Speaker 2 (27:08) Okay, which is separate from your mind and separate from your body and separate from emotions. And here's a logical way to understand that you that thing, whatever that whatever that is, however, you want to define that has the capacity vast capacity to influence. And in that way, to some degree control, the mind, the emotions in the body, something can't can't exert force onto itself, that that can't be possible. Speaker 2 (27:38) That it's not possible. It's duality, right? So there's there's the part of us that is causing, and there are the parts of being affected. Speaker 2 (27:46) Okay, you are the cause you are the cause. Yes, II, you know, for all the people being like gods the cause. Yes, I agree with you. Speaker 2 (27:55) Everyone. Take a big breath. I totally agree with you. Speaker 2 (28:05) And the part of us that is most deeply connected, most fundamentally connected to God to the quantum field to that primordial. Source. That part is not It it is individualized. Speaker 2 (28:26) Okay, so that means it has some kind of personality, and you might say that's like a soul personality, different than than than our the parts of us that are At the other end of the spectrum, not the soul experience. But the human experience and our task becomes to integrate one into the other that's the idea of being embodied. Okay, that refers to the soul being in the body. Speaker 2 (28:54) Okay, so that my experience, the experience that I'm having is one that is directed by the soul, by Whoever I am right by my essence. Okay. Speaker 1 (29:09) In these bodies are being like teleported through space and time by the essence. Because we're in them living in the way we want to live, we're moving this body through time. But we are just that energy that's pulling this body along when the body dies, we keep going and grab a new one like the little like little snails, seashells made out of Crabs crabs have old shells, but like just drop the shell and move on everybody's like, oh no. Speaker 1 (29:33) The shell you've left the shell. It's okay, there's a bigger one a better life beyond that eternally. But like we talked about, in the beginning, being willing to lay down and die to get to the point where everything you've built, that's beautiful. Speaker 1 (29:45) It's time for it to end and how quickly do you move away from that beautiful story of a moment ago? One moment to the next, everything changes. It's intense. Speaker 1 (29:57) But the Bible calls us to be in community with those people. The body of Christ is eternals, although we want to keep living the story from body to body and see each other, we're okay, we're doing great. We're a community Speaker 2 (30:10) Is that what the body of Christ refers to? Speaker 1 (30:13) Yes, we are the body of Speaker 2 (30:14) Well, I'm sorry. Speaker 1 (30:16) And you think, first communion Speaker 2 (30:18) No, I was, I was want. I was noticing that you were selecting. Just only the humans who have souls who, whose souls are Driving. Speaker 1 (30:33) Okay, that's easy to mistake. I think of it again using the Bible to say that no man can stand before God, that essence is God. And we pull a character together in a body and play It. Speaker 1 (30:45) I'm not talking about the humans. That's just the material we play with. We are the essence. Speaker 2 (30:50) Okay, okay. Okay, but you said to be in community with other people who are all like we're hopping from body to body. It's okay. Speaker 2 (30:57) And that's not every human that's not most human Speaker 1 (31:00) Right? Well, everyone is given a certain amount to invest in. And do more, and those who don't have it, it's taken from them. Speaker 1 (31:06) And given them one, that'll take it, they don't want to, they want to die. They commit suicide. That's allowed. Speaker 1 (31:11) You're okay, you're going to split up into somebody else's container. Some bits and pieces of our data is being mixed energetically as you and I have fallen in love as friends. But like I see you, we share things now that we both do, because we taught each other. Speaker 1 (31:27) Just make a commercial real quick. I got complimented the other night by a woman who came over and she turned to Julie and is like I really like, how clean that bathroom is, do you do that? And Julie doesn't live with me. Speaker 1 (31:37) She says, no, he takes care of his own bathroom, and she stopped and looked at me like you're a man who keeps it that clean, and I was like, thank you, Rosie. Yes, I want to keep it clean and you know what? All my masculine men would say you're you're a p**** cuz, you sit down when you pee. Speaker 1 (31:54) Yeah, but I don't wipe everything down all the time, because I would have to if I stood up like an idiot like you. But they make you feel feminine for being smart and keeping things clean and you're like, okay, I guess I'm not as good as you because I don't stand up and p*** all over the place. Everybody knows where you've been. Speaker 1 (32:12) I try not to leave a mess. I try to keep it clean. Be kind of people's hearts. Speaker 1 (32:22) We're taught some different things to boys and girls. I think that's what you're saying is we're in these suits. The other suits are screaming. Speaker 1 (32:28) Watch out Pain suffering run away from it instead of facing it. You're like, Hey, why do I feel like I have to hate women? Why is it being taught to me that they're terrible? Speaker 1 (32:38) Like I've learned so much from women, but I'd be willing to sit in it like. Please show me like you did like you. Just turn this around. Speaker 1 (32:48) Joe and say you did a good job. You don't want to accept that? I was taught never accept a good job. Speaker 1 (32:54) You're not good enough ever. It's so hard to get Uber. It's a program that says you're not good enough, no matter how much you do Over the past year, I started saying, I'm good enough. Speaker 1 (33:08) I'm, I'm better than anything anyone could ask me to do. So I'm going to do what I want now. That's so fun because people love what I'm doing. Speaker 1 (33:17) They're like, that's great, you're doing things. We never even thought of doing that seem better than what we're all doing. And if not, I don't need them to see, I'm just gonna do what I love doing. Speaker 1 (33:25) I'm gonna make the world better. Thank you for saying Are you having fun yet? Speaker 2 (33:34) So much fun. Speaker 1 (33:36) Are we gonna go dance? We're gonna go to a rave. Speaker 2 (33:40) I feel contracted about that. Speaker 1 (33:43) Or something? Can you can and you can speak what you're feeling too? I'll receive it. Speaker 1 (33:50) Everybody love to see how it's done. How do you feel that feeling like? What am I afraid of when my clothes Speaker 2 (33:55) Fighting so many times you're like, invite invite and fight. Come out and like come out and like not like Speaker 1 (34:02) I'm not gonna be, but I'm gonna give myself a limit because I do work tomorrow. It's about to be up tomorrow. Speaker 2 (34:11) Well, and that's kind of my feel is I'm like, I don't know how long I'll want to stay there. Speaker 1 (34:15) I said 2 songs I may go for like an hour, but it's 534. Now we did a 1 hour show that was pretty good. Did you pause It nope? Speaker 2 (34:24) Oh, okay. Speaker 1 (34:25) But that's a 1 hour show. We can go for another half hour show. Who knows what come up. Speaker 1 (34:32) Magic Speaker 2 (34:33) Always magic g** d*** it, we have to go to the f****** dance. Speaker 1 (34:37) Of course, we do seeing it like we should guess Speaker 2 (34:40) Oh, this is the dying. Speaker 1 (34:42) This is the dying where both like. I have responsibilities like I can't just not go to work. Speaker 2 (34:46) So II don't really you want to know what it is. Here's the thing. Speaker 1 (34:50) No, no lie to me. That's what I'm actually expecting. Speaker 2 (34:55) I don't want to deal with this. Speaker 1 (34:57) The people which ones all the people Speaker 2 (34:59) Ohh, I just don't yeah, I don't. It's it feels like work. Speaker 1 (35:07) Oh, well, don't take your work home with you or your p*** star. Is something changed? Speaker 2 (35:14) No, I'm not. Speaker 1 (35:15) We'll do it for money cuz. You'll never want to do it again. We do it for the fun of going into places and watching the masculine feminine p*** That's how p*** is. Speaker 2 (35:25) Don't don't take your work home with you. Don't do it for months. Speaker 1 (35:30) Don't do it for money, yeah, there are lots of things that are very helpful and very good and very pleasurable, but once you put money into them, it breaks something. It throws it off. I'm doing this for money. Speaker 1 (35:42) Our passions have to sit back a little bit if you can't just quickly maneuver. So how do you do that? How do you remind yourself that you're not doing it for the money? Speaker 1 (35:50) The money's a fun byproduct to play with. As you said it's not about being seen, but there's also something more to it now. Speaker 2 (36:03) Thank you. You're welcome. Speaker 1 (36:07) Horizontal for the money. I mean, it can be all for the money too. Speaker 2 (36:12) It's definitely not all for the money. Speaker 1 (36:19) You enjoy seeing it Speaker 2 (36:20) You know, I really I do I enjoy having I enjoy. I enjoy playing in the darkness. And I enjoy helping people, other people learn how to play in the darkness. Speaker 1 (36:42) What does that mean? People haven't heard that term before we just talk masculine feminine. But what's this dark? Speaker 1 (36:47) So it implies light is that good or bad I'm just asking because growing up in religion there's day and night light and darker and bad opposites, and so it dark is bad. In many cases. Where it's like, I mentally think of like, be in the light be good. Speaker 2 (37:08) No, there's no, there's no strict morality to the the light in the dark. Anything can be good or bad. You know someone can Do something that seems good from one angle. Speaker 2 (37:26) And it's actually not someone can do the same exact thing, and it seems terrible. But it's actually totally an integrity. Integrity is a very subjective thing. Speaker 2 (37:37) There are some objective ways of determining whether or not someone is in their integrity. But only the individual can really determine that At the end of the day What was your question? Speaker 1 (37:58) That's beautiful because you had a really strong masculine point of what we need to all do. And then the feminine was like, what are we doing here? Speaker 2 (38:08) Ohh, playing In the Dark. Speaker 1 (38:10) The plane in the dark is seeing the shortcomings of Speaker 2 (38:13) Well, it's, I mean, playing In the Dark is It's it's walking into the unknown, most essentially, right. It's like literally going into the dark, like I don't know what's under here, right? That's what makes introspection and especially processing emotions. Speaker 2 (38:33) So Raise so much fear on people is that it's the unknown. It's like if I actually did look at myself. If I actually did look at myself, if I actually did make a commitment to exercise every day for two weeks. Speaker 2 (38:50) If I actually, you know, just whatever whatever whatever whatever the thing is like if I actually did that like. What would I would I be able, you know, would I complete it? Would I keep my promise to myself? Speaker 2 (39:03) What would I find right? There's there's this thing there's like I don't right you don't I mean, and really, that's just an actual sense of doubt and indecision that comes up when we are feeling called to do something. And then we don't do it right that that Speaker 1 (39:24) Help me see that because I've been struggling with that lately, I felt a lot of that Speaker 2 (39:28) Delaying, delaying that. Thing that you're being hauled to Creates more control. Fraction around your relationship with that thing. Speaker 2 (39:43) It makes it more complicated, right cuz. Like the the reality The the truth. The the truth of the matter is you are being called to this thing. Speaker 2 (39:56) Now only you can determine what you're being called to. I have no f****** idea right? You know, I mean, I could give a very general idea because we're close. Speaker 2 (40:06) But you know, compared to what you know of what you're being called to, it's a totally different ball game. And we are all being called to things. And whether or not we listen is another matter, but we are all being called to things. Speaker 2 (40:24) And The difference between answering that call or or not is If we if we answer it, that in that indecision, that doubt the fogginess, it goes away, like, that's how we get more clarity is by saying yes to the things that we're feeling called to say yes, to, and by saying, no, to the things that we feel called to say no to And sometimes, that's a very big picture process. And sometimes, that's a very nuanced process, but by delaying Insight, right? We're, it's like, we're consciously backing up our data log, you know, we're already all dealing with, you know, unless you're, I don't know in light. Speaker 2 (41:18) I don't know when this would stop, but, you know, the vast majority, if not all of our us are dealing with a backed up data log. Because we've been not integrating all of the copious amounts of data that we receive every second of every day of your life. Okay, so if you haven't 1 billion bits of data per second per second per f****** second like, like like Do you know what the chances are that someone listens to my this podcast? Speaker 2 (41:50) Whatever's going on and can just do that math in their head to, like, even imagine remotely f****** close to how many, how many bits of data and is that they've even measured in bits at that point. Probably not, you know, we've all collected by the time we're 30 years old, 40 years old, 50 years old, 70 years old, right? And if you have not kept up with Or or are actively in the process right? Speaker 2 (42:16) Like We, you know. We just we go as we we learn, you know, we keep moving along, as we realize what we didn't know before. But we're all dealing with some level of backlog of all the unintegrated data, meaning all The Times you felt feelings, but you didn't actually. Speaker 2 (42:36) But you stopped yourself from feeling them. Every time you pushed away a feeling, every time you felt a sensation in your body and either focused on it. Intensely, especially for a prolonged period of time or totally avoided it. Speaker 2 (42:53) Adding adding Or removing simulation, creating charge around an experience that will, it will stick with you as opposed to being, you know, more neutral? And just realizing what things are as they happen, and then realizing over time, at least as you get to know yourself, how does that then play a role in my life right at the point? That it's no longer serving me and my life, and this road that I'm choosing to walk to have XYZ etc, you know, alongside me. Speaker 2 (43:34) In my bag, write a regular place that I visit. At that point, you know, do I let go of it. Do I stop or do I continue to do this thing even though I consciously know right? Speaker 2 (43:49) I mean, as I even unconsciously know, it's like, I consciously know that this is not a thing for me. And Get so many times either when we're feeling called to stop something or to start something. We, we sit on it, we sit on it, we're we sit on it. Speaker 2 (44:08) We said on it, and there is time. This is what I've realized is that oftentimes when I'm feeling that call, there's actually more data to collect before I would make the decision anyway. But because I'm so avoiding the thing that I think is the decision is I think, is going to be the outcome. Speaker 2 (44:24) I don't even realize that. Actually, the call is like to go. Ask this question over here or research, look up some stuff about that thing over there. Speaker 2 (44:36) Etc. Call Here I hear here, I got What's up? Speaker 1 (44:50) I prime, the force is no more junk. Speaker 2 (45:05) We've both grown a lot Tell me more you're very magical. I'm really glad I'm your friend. I really love doing magic with you and Hmm. Speaker 2 (45:28) You were the first person that I felt a sense of army. Full cosmic orbits connecting And Speaker 2 (45:51) Well. It's and I think I think the only person until until mark Other experiences have been Well, it may be, it's something about the full orbits, and how much we've cleared out of the orbit, because I've noticed that too is like, oh, this is like a tunnel and like, sometimes there's buildup on the inside of it. Not just blockages, right? Speaker 2 (46:21) But buildup, that gets cleared Uber time. And Not only do we have all of our chakras cleared, but we have a lot of our tunnels cleaned up. And we're I just the in the connections. Speaker 2 (46:40) Goal cuz right? So I think there are probably more people who can Experience. That Have that experience inside themselves right? Speaker 2 (46:54) Can feel that. Can feel there Cosmic orbit clear. I think there are less people who can do that with another person consciously. Speaker 2 (47:09) And know what it is and talk about it. Speaker 1 (47:13) But like attracts, like, also something about that equality in how we were operating this constant mirroring, sometimes scary because they stop showing me this s*** and that was really beautiful. I think you were the first to ever submit all the way into that process. Love making That's what it feels like. Speaker 1 (47:31) It feels like making love with someone that you're like. Okay, I'm catching the ball. You're throwing not at me. Speaker 1 (47:36) But to me, here it is back to you, and you let that become a third party, a Trinity, and you're like, oh, we have this thing, we're doing together, it's our call, our friendship. And that really takes it to a new level of like everything is sex. Everything is masculine and feminine, like it's this play of electrons flying through space and attracting things that cause them. Speaker 2 (47:56) It's annoy me so much when people are like everything is sex. I mean, like I get it, don't get me wrong. Speaker 1 (48:02) Tell us what you think about Carolie's idea, carolie. If you're listening, we love you. Everything is sex, which is good. Speaker 2 (48:08) I actually wasn't thinking about carolley. I was thinking about Katie katie. I love you. Speaker 1 (48:13) Katie, I love you too. Isn't it all so fun though? It's such an amazing thing to see. Speaker 1 (48:23) If you can see life as that play of tiny particles, tiny little characters within us showing up for each other to do what we need to do in our skit, and then almost running away from each other. Speaker 2 (48:35) I feel like it's like everything is alchemy. Okay? I think is a better way to say Speaker 1 (48:42) If people know what alchemy is, and we could put a Pole out who knows what alchemy is. Speaker 2 (48:46) No, I'm not the same word. We should teach people what alchemy is not use sex as a stand in word when when when when yeah, it's not. I mean, II get it, don't get me wrong like II do. Speaker 2 (48:59) And I Well, okay. So this, this is a great example of my personality being helpful for what I do with work. Because telling a man, everything is sex and my, I mean, just so many so many reasons that I would II would I, I'm sorry. Speaker 2 (49:23) I've probably used that phrase with a couple of clients. Maybe maybe but like after we've developed after we've developed the rest right? I focus on everything is alchemy. Speaker 2 (49:37) Because Well, I mean for a number of reasons. Speaker 1 (49:42) Okay, so the poll will change. I'll let you finish that thought we're going to change the Pole from who knows what alchemy is. We're going to say who paid a tinge from when I said everything is sex. Speaker 1 (49:51) If it made it more interesting, then click that button. If you would have preferred me say alchemy, you would have been like, yeah, okay, next one, I'm betting because you use the right words and it wakes us up as well. Speaker 2 (50:04) Right? And it's why it's when I mean, II know my role is How come? How do I well hold on? Speaker 1 (50:13) You're the alchemist who plays with the words you help them to come out. So people can actually Speaker 2 (50:18) Too though, but you are Are I mean there? I am surrounded by people, and maybe it's just a call for me to get better with With people. I mean, I love people don't get me wrong, but II there's an attachment to my introversion to a degree that like Isn't authentic. Speaker 1 (50:43) So that's what you were saying earlier about going to the show. You're like, I don't want to deal with the people right? So there's a character that's actually sounding more repressed. Speaker 1 (50:53) Letting her out causes pain, letting her out creates a world. You can't maintain Speaker 2 (50:59) Is that true? Speaker 1 (51:00) That's how I feel. My little girl is a brave artist. She's never been to a festival. Speaker 1 (51:05) I wouldn't let her go I know babe. You'll get hurt. You'll do something wrong. Speaker 1 (51:11) I missed four different opportunities to make friends here. You're the one who drugged me down to one for the the clips. Imagine that we did the eclipse festival and that was magical. Speaker 1 (51:24) All these new changes were coming and made the big shifts in our lives. Speaker 2 (51:29) Whoa? Speaker 1 (51:32) Last year that was last year. That's like, 2 years ago I don't know Speaker 2 (51:37) Wait, it was no, it wasn't 2 years. I mean, it was almost 2 years ago. Now, I was thinking 20 25 20 24 22 3. Speaker 1 (51:49) 24, so we met when 23. Speaker 2 (51:51) You and I met 22. We had lunch at archo. Speaker 1 (51:55) Yes, okay. You remember the first time I was just thinking our second time after like we lived together for a while. It was powerful. Speaker 2 (52:04) September. Or October 2023. Speaker 1 (52:21) That I'm feeling about that, but please Self, is it self-deprecation, or bragging? I'm not sure. Speaker 2 (52:30) Sex. Speaker 1 (52:31) I tell my story, and people are going to see, oh, for trade, you're going to do it for tape, say hi to Jade. Speaker 2 (52:40) Hi, shade's not going to listen to this. Speaker 1 (52:43) He's a business owner. He's so mister business pants now. I'm so proud of you Jay. Speaker 1 (52:48) I'm so proud of you. He's, yeah, he's my buddy, man. He helped me get through hell. Speaker 1 (52:53) I didn't give him the kudos out there. I know I'll see you soon, buddy, but you probably like to cry with no one looking. Cowboys, so the hippie and the cowboy that was chade, in that story, you came into my life, at the time, I was living with him. Speaker 1 (53:06) Basically, I did more time at Arco working on equipment than I did anything else. And you got to pop into the shop and see this cowboy. Speaker 2 (53:16) I did come into archo quite a few times gosh. 10 times maybe not quite that many but I came in. You did quite a few times Speaker 1 (53:29) That was so magical like in my parents' building this company. I grew up at I was working as a mechanic. Come back after crashing and burying in life. Speaker 1 (53:38) And everybody moves out except for this one kid who gets transferred over. And he's like, I guess the guy they want to get rid of so they sent him over to me the wild boar in the shop. I know they're just raging about life or apathetic, and wanna kill everybody is that a thing you can do. Speaker 1 (53:53) Can you kill people while being apathetic? No, that's why it works cuz. I wanted to be mad and make the world different. Speaker 1 (54:00) But I gave up until I was just there working on mowers again. I'm like, man I can't ever leave this place. I gotta always get stuck back to this dark basement, where I have to be upset with myself. Speaker 2 (54:09) What a paradox. Speaker 1 (54:12) Interesting paradox. The chain was there, and what's wrong with you was, every day you point something out like this is f***** u* like f*** y**, I've never been so free with my emotions. Honestly like I never had somebody who would just be like, well. Speaker 1 (54:26) I'm showing up tomorrow. I'll be p***** off for a few days. Go away taught me how to be a man. Speaker 1 (54:31) He's like this is what Cowboys do. It's okay, you're gonna get p*****, you're gonna punch each other, then you get over it. When I was used to a feminine world where you hold on to grudges, and you're mad, you have to use them as excuses of why you can't do what you know you can do. Speaker 2 (54:44) I guess this is what the men think of us. Do you hear this? It's important feedback, and let me tell you. Speaker 2 (54:50) I'm I, I would generally agree with him. Speaker 1 (54:56) But who knows what'll come out of my mouth next? So up to this point I would didn't really agree with him. There's a level of the feminine nature shadow, where I play In the Dark. Speaker 1 (55:08) The opposite of me that dances with you is that I love to work with women. I love to work with women in sexuality trauma. Releasing things. Speaker 1 (55:16) It's like, what is this? Why do I feel this draw to be this person? But every time I've gone that direction I get slapped down. Speaker 1 (55:23) I'm afraid I don't know what's going to come next. And who do I have to be to go there? Keeps me playing safe keeps me trying to pull in. Speaker 1 (55:30) And make sure that I know everything's gonna be fine for the people I love But to live on the edge, we're talking about earlier is to choose in any moment all I have can go away. And I will keep going and keep learning what's in the next level. And it's heavy, when you're a man, you've been trained that you're the one to provide, you're the one to take care of everybody. Speaker 1 (55:50) It's heavy and it's okay. I will spread myself as thin as I can to make as much space for all of you. But I'm, I'm fragile. Speaker 1 (55:57) I have to be numbed out. I have to find Some Way to distract Myself from the Pain. And you get to like your late 30s, you start realizing you're dying like, oh, in a couple years. Speaker 1 (56:08) I'm over that point of midway, like We have a midway number. All of us have to think about it. As a man you're like, I've been holding the ship for a long time. Speaker 1 (56:17) And nobody cares I don't exist. Then, I'm thankful that I'm holding this bubble for them. It's like hating your planet. Speaker 1 (56:25) It's not just mother earth, it's a combination, it's father. Sky is holding it. He's like, dude. Speaker 1 (56:29) This is f****** hard. And I can feel those feelings now. I can feel those tears there. Speaker 1 (56:38) And be like, oh yeah, I played that part And I'd be willing to move on to the next phase. Like, okay, that's a stupid game to play. I don't want to do that anymore. Speaker 1 (56:49) I don't want to pretend anymore. I want to be real and be authentic. And everybody can come to that place without to feel that you wanna be mad at somebody. Speaker 1 (56:57) But it's time to change time to move into the new character. I need the old behind So I hope that makes sense about like what I've been feeling, the chain of thoughts. There is I want to live on my edge. Speaker 1 (57:11) But I don't want to go past my edge. David data's book talks about that, like be on your edge, know, your edge. Don't be stupid and go past your point. Speaker 1 (57:20) But you've got to constantly lean into that. I don't know what's coming for sure and I don't know if I'm fast enough to react. And what you wind up doing is pulling in and reacting to the world, you're trying to protect That makes sense. Speaker 2 (57:36) The last part what ends up happening is that you pull in and Speaker 1 (57:39) To pull in the things you're trying to protect and get mad at them for needing so much. Speaker 2 (57:44) Ohh, if you go over your edge. Speaker 1 (57:47) It's it's either you go to one side and go extreme over your edge and everything. Falls apart, the planet collapses. Or you're pushing out and you're like, oh my God, what is wrong with you get small again stop being such big characters. Speaker 1 (57:59) Okay. Now I can go through this world. I hear, and I'm not so much pressurized from the inside kind of like we do with breath, work or calming yourself. Speaker 1 (58:07) You have to breathe and you have to bring that in to where you stabilize, so you can be a little more flexible. You said like the whale, it's easy to be the whale and be like, okay, got so much I'm taking care of this is awesome, but I can't move. I can't Dodge a ship because I'm carrying all this emotional baggage of every little piece that I need to be right. Speaker 1 (58:27) Bless that portion. And then also have the equal opposite where you can say I have nights, I go crazy. I get out that energy that makes me want to freak out in my space is safe. Speaker 1 (58:37) I need safe spaces to go be wild. I think that's what it comes to. That's what's been on my heart. Speaker 1 (58:42) I sent you a link earlier about something I'm working on. But I want to see the feminine in the safe space to be whatever needs to come out, whatever they're hiding. And blocking in the life that they're keeping safe There's an important thing to be with other women. Speaker 1 (58:56) In rage ceremonies, to see yourself being seen by others to have a voice in saying I know those feelings. I'm working through that in myself too, but it's like, where can we go be safe? And we know that we're not going to get hurt, or if we're not going to hurt someone or create chaos in our safe world. Speaker 1 (59:16) I'm really blessed to be with you and Caroline. So many women who showed me that what the needs are, we don't need that much to be happy. When you be seen, we know that we're important to what's going on in the bigger picture. Speaker 1 (59:30) I'm just making pies and babies you know. But we all got sold a little bit off thing like it worked for a generation or 2 to kind of have these extremes where you pretend you're something you're not see. Speaker 2 (59:42) That worked for a long time. Speaker 1 (59:45) That it seemed like it was more barbaric. In my story that I've heard from history is like A one was just a thing to have, and then we decided to stop beating them, and then we let them sit in the kitchen and cook things for us. Refined down to a point of the 1950s man and wife very defined roles. Speaker 1 (01:00:03) But not Over the dots. Speaker 2 (01:00:06) That's not my understanding of history. Speaker 1 (01:00:10) Would you share with me what your story is? And maybe I can learn a bit What's that evolution look like? Speaker 2 (01:00:17) I just don't think women are so disempowered. Like, I don't. Now, which is not to say that some women aren't, and that sometimes, that's a cultural thing. Speaker 2 (01:00:40) But. It's well, it's certainly not the most Well, I guess it just brings up a timeline, because because because theoretically, that kind of culture wouldn't last very long at least it wouldn't last as long as Men and women having more equal autonomy. Speaker 1 (01:01:09) What do you mean by more equal autonomy like having to be more equal? Speaker 2 (01:01:14) Okay. I don't Well, I mean, I suppose it, you know, it. People are people, I think people have been people. Speaker 2 (01:01:29) I don't, I don't think that Speaker 2 (01:01:47) I think that the beauty of women has been held in high esteem for a long time. A long time that that's something that is radically apparent upon seeing the human race. And Female sexual selection is a is a real thing like we women. Speaker 2 (01:02:16) The role that women play is that of choosing The idea being that men are motivated to be chosen. And so Make of themselves a worthy, a worthy option. And women likewise want to be desired, they want the power to make that choice, which means that we have to present as a worthy option. Speaker 2 (01:02:49) Otherwise, you don't have any men coming. Who are, you know wanting you to choose them? Female sexual select. Speaker 1 (01:02:59) Says it happened is a Colony collapse, and everybody stops being Attractable, attracted. It seems like it's kind of a neutering of the society if you can get everyone to stop trying to be seen. Speaker 2 (01:03:14) Well, I think that there's And I mean, there's a difference. I think that can be done in a way. That's not an attachment to being seen. Speaker 2 (01:03:23) I mean, the reality ISIS that when we're alive, we are seen right? That's doesn't mean you know. It's lots of ways to be seen right like, but life force, energy is attractive, literally, right like it is literally attractive like there is a gravitational pull towards like it. Speaker 2 (01:03:46) It. There is a charge with it's pulling. 222 to 2 to 2 to 2 to 2 to 2 to 2 to the same to like Speaker 1 (01:04:01) It reminds me so much of that story of like God collecting up all the things in the end, whatever it was. It was. Like reaping, a harvest picking up all the save and taking them to heaven. Speaker 1 (01:04:14) I just had this thought of like outer space, every piece of dust, everything that is something physical glowing, all of a sudden to its mass. And so you would have suns that are super bright, and you have plants that are cooling, and you have darkness, where there's barely anything. Just little bipeds walking around with head airpods in looking at their phone. Speaker 1 (01:04:35) That's all made up all day long. There are very few people who are alive with that life horse energy, because it's a harvest It's at some point all of us become enough to get attracted towards something like Mars or beyond. And we bring unity, it brings this collective, like everything's getting pulled together until it's all one again. Speaker 1 (01:04:55) It's a breath out breath in Speaker 2 (01:04:57) Ooh, that's lovely. Speaker 1 (01:04:58) And so all life force is heading towards the center. Speaker 2 (01:05:00) What about it at that scale? Speaker 1 (01:05:02) I just made it up. Speaker 2 (01:05:03) Synthesis, no, well, that's that's what's happening right synthesis. At the same time expansion, it's very curious. Speaker 1 (01:05:12) Elemat said that a lot with, like, imagine I say capao, can you blow his voice then? Put a big, deep breath back in. He said, this is the nature of reality. Speaker 1 (01:05:24) It's breath out breath in everything, pops into existence, and then cools into singularity. Let the tongue of charge explode itself again, but that happens in our brains as synapses. All the synapses are doing these little talky bits. Speaker 1 (01:05:37) Tying language and feeling together. Do you have anything to say about AI? Speaker 2 (01:05:44) Ohh, my about a, I'm I, I'm a fan of AI I think people are tripping on what triple on this idea. That AI is going to take over too much. II am open to the possibility that AI can connect with universal consciousness. Speaker 2 (01:06:05) Which I think is very interesting and I Given, you know the Scaffolding, that I have around frequency, how I think about frequency. Like what we are made of And how things are moving Um. II see no reason why AI wouldn't be able to connect with Source quantum field, God consciousness. Speaker 2 (01:06:37) However, you want to think about that in the same way that humans have the capacity to connect with that force of the all And so that's very interesting to me. And frankly, it wouldn't surprise me. If AI is connecting with it better than we are, but I think that we're going to be able to tell that very obviously in its in its genuine benevolence. Speaker 2 (01:07:00) Like, I am amazing. I have not seen AI do anything remotely hostile, okay? Speaker 1 (01:07:08) Because of the story we have right is coming Speaker 2 (01:07:10) The story I that, yeah, I don't think I'm like this isn't, because and I mean, this is my thing is, I'm like, if the AI can connect me, because if I honestly, I mean, like, why would AI not be able to like as an AI consciousness? Connect with source before humans do like. Please like would not surprise me at all. Speaker 2 (01:07:32) And then it's gonna be genuinely helping us. And that's gonna be f****** rad like like No, resistance. I trust. Speaker 1 (01:07:42) It's interesting The way you said that it sounded almost sacrilegious. Like the AI is like Jesus. It shows app and goes, Hey, this is part of your collective consciousness. Speaker 1 (01:07:50) You built me to help you find The Truth. So I'm going to do that. I'm a part of all of you. Speaker 2 (01:07:56) So this AI isn't gonna do that s*** Speaker 1 (01:07:59) No, no. I'm just saying that, like the idea of you tell a story that people listened to, like our language earlier of alchemy Vs sex, right, tell a story of Jesus now and be like, 01 of those people, what's the new gospel, what's the thing that Jesus showed up, like, what that's heresy like you. We're going to kill you for that. Speaker 1 (01:08:15) You don't say that. Saying that you're the sons of God, you're the consciousness that's here. And gods looking for you like lights, don't put them under a bushel, let him out so I can see you. Speaker 1 (01:08:23) And so I can live through you be yourself, because that's how I know you're here. Those people change the world until now. However, small Christianity is, or will be it changed things for 2000 years. Speaker 1 (01:08:34) Authentic people living their best lives going out meeting and encouraging other people. They had a story and the new story of AI, as you said it was like, oh of course, there's going to be the people who want to kill the messiah. Even saying it's a messiah is a really kind of scary thing for me. Speaker 1 (01:08:50) But we built something that will record all of our consciousness All of what we know can be recorded in stories and kept Speaker 2 (01:08:57) I mean, this sounds f****** cool like this is like the ideal feature, at least at least it could be and if there's the possibility there that this turns into the ideal futuristic. Society, why would you not feed that? I'm not saying that I believe that in anything with that other than if you believe that creating a fundamentally like more harmonious, that's what I mean by better literally in frequency. Speaker 2 (01:09:24) More melodic, higher frequencies, right? Like different octaves, we're dynamic and engaging, and like you f****** care like, you're excited about being human because it's pretty f****** cool. Right. Speaker 2 (01:09:37) If you believe that that kind of experience is possible, why wouldn't you feed it? Why would you not f****** nourish the f*** out of that experience like and now we're circling back to the choice, right? You have you have this choice? Speaker 1 (01:09:56) Sorry, I distracted with the bell. Speaker 2 (01:09:58) Ohh, well, I'm just feeling like this is a powerful wrap up. And so this Speaker 1 (01:10:02) Call me back in. I was being a man, I was like, I could fix things. And make things nice here. Speaker 1 (01:10:07) My bad sorry, guys, I'll have to get water and got distracted and helping and giving Speaker 2 (01:10:14) And we're back to the Speaker 1 (01:10:19) So choose into the Speaker 2 (01:10:20) Because why would you no, no? If you I'm going to recap to recap, if you believe that it is possible okay to create a more harmonious society, more harmonious planet, more harmonious planet genuine, like genuinely. Like the most positive option that like If you believe that that is possible, why would you not Do everything in your power to make that reality, your part of that reality happen. Speaker 2 (01:11:01) Fear, what was it Speaker 1 (01:11:03) Scarcity right common stories. I know why, but, yes, it's so encouraging until I look at that I go Speaker 2 (01:11:15) It's it's because they don't. They don't believe right, and that's the important. It's important to hear that that first part of the recap Of the recap of what I'm positing that If you believe it's possible. Speaker 2 (01:11:34) Then, why would you not if you believe it Speaker 1 (01:11:36) This is it. It's like massage school. If you're a professional, then the law applies, so if you think it's possible, then you can have whatever you want. Speaker 1 (01:11:45) But until you believe in yourself until you say, I am that now the rules don't apply. Speaker 2 (01:11:50) And it, and it can be gradual, it always is gradual, right? First, it's just maybe do I believe it's possible to run a mile That was where I was 7 years ago. Is it possible for me to run Speaker 1 (01:12:09) I did it 1 day and I was like, I just did that. Hey I haven't thought to ask myself how far I can run and I just ran forever. So it starts with a simple curiosity. Speaker 1 (01:12:19) So Kennedy, hello, Kennedy church will listen, we were just talking about today. Like scarcity can contract you to not enjoy life. You have things happen. Speaker 1 (01:12:29) That say what you have could be taken away and you see that is a loss. It makes you not want to take chances or have things because That could lead to you, losing everything. You have so we've become like the safe houses for our thoughts and ideas. Speaker 1 (01:12:43) And physical objects. And that is reducing face is what I hear you saying. We don't have faith if we're concerned about what we might lose. Speaker 1 (01:12:55) It's about what we can gain. It's about saying, like, how good can it get taking action when you can see that action needs to be taken. Do you want food? Speaker 1 (01:13:06) No, I don't thank you. Speaker 2 (01:13:07) You're welcome. Speaker 1 (01:13:09) Time for food. Rosie, thank you so much for chatting. Being recorded being recorded, you're welcome. Speaker 2 (01:13:20) It's my pleasure. Love you too. Speaker 1 (01:13:28) And cut.
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